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| | By Yahoo Answers | | 2007-02-01 05:16:58 | | After asking friends and Yahoo answers, I have decided to purchase a Glock. A local gun shop has a special on new Glock 17 full size 9mm or Glock 19 small size 9mm complete with Glock case, 2 mags (17 is 17 shot, 19 is 15 shot), and speedloader. The price is $479. I have to order within 2 weeks. Which gun is better. I assume that the 19 might be slightly better since the 17 is the first model.
Lastly, how much more is a .45 caliber? I prefer a .40S&W or .45 caliber, but may jump on the 9mm if its a good deal.
Lastly, yes I am an experienced shooter and am comfortable with all of these calibers.
I live in North Carolina if that helps with cost comparison. | | Answered By: sub_moa_shooter |  |
| | IMHO I would rent different pistols in different calibers to see what you like best. I preferred the Glock Mod. 23 to my Wife's Glock Mod. 19, but both were great shooters. I just preferred the .40 S&W to the 9mm. |
| User: boknoy_rocks | | in my opinion, you should get the glock... a 9mm gun is way better than a 45. what makes it even better is the fact that it comes with extra mags and a speed loader!!! Glock Rules! | | | | User: Henry_56 | | I went from a high cap 9mm to the Glock 45 because I figure that if I ever have to use a handgun in self defense, I will have waited until the last possible second, ie the guy will be charging me or shooting at me, so I wanted the bigger caliber for the knock-down power. I've read about ppl getting shot multiple times with the 9mm and they do die, but four minutes later. YOu can do a lot of damage in that four minutes. Whereas, I've read that if you get shot in the torso with a 45, esp a hydra shock or the equiv, you stay shot. Ive never been in a gun battle personally, so I can't comment on the value of those extra few rounds per mag, but all the cop shootings I've seen or read about, everybody empties their mag anyway.
Pricewise, it sounds about 70 low from par, so a good deal. But then again, 70 is nice, but ... I wouldn't go with a capital investment like a pistol that I didn't prefer to save 70. Maybe to save 200 ...
That's my two cents -
Cheers | | | | User: andre | | I would definitely go with the 9mm caliber, ammo is cheaper especially if you want to do alot of practicing, and has alot less recoil but still has a pretty good punch for a smaller caliber. I like the model 19 better because it is a little bit small than the 17 and easier to carry around. The price is great, most of the time you can plan to spend around 550 to 600 depending on if they have night sights or not. I would say go for it. It sounds like a good deal to me. | | | | User: jenpoesavon | | I don't really know about prices up there where you are but I do know that down here in Florida it's not much more for a .40cal. My husband has the small .40 cal. Glock and he loves it. I believe we paid around 515.00 for his New. Glock's really are great guns! But if I was you if you prefer the .40 I'd go with that in a compact that way it's easier to conceal. Also from what I've seen (at least at the gun shop that we shop at) all new Glocks come with 2 mag's so I wouldn't let that be your deal breaker. Shop around for a few more day's and see if you can get what you really want for a good price. I'm sure you'll be happy with what ever Glock you get. | | | | User: boundferheaven | | if you can get a new brand name auto pistol for under 5 hundred bucks then your getting a good deal. i personally do not like the glocks and would recommend a browning hi-power or a berreta in 9mm or a springfeild in 45 acp. but again these are my opinions and not facts.
you decision should depend on your intended use for the gun, if your planning on carrying this gun for personal protection then go with the smaller model, its easier to conceal and easier to carry. if your just gonna be target shooting then go with the larger model, it will be more acurate with a more controllable recoil for rapid firing. both guns are equal in quality and only differ in the purpose they are intended to serve. also the larger model will have significantly less bark and will be a little easier on the ears.
as far as caliber again it depends on your intended use: the 9mm is a good penetrating round and is very inexpensive to shoot when at the range. the .45 acp has virtually the same muzzle velocity but carries much more energy. it wont penetrate quite as well but will cause more damage. the .40 that someone else mentioned is supposedly the best of both worlds and is still an excellent choice. but if your just target shooting i would go with the model 17 in 9mm due to the cost of ammo, if your gonna use for personal defense get the compact pistol in a larger caliber.
a wise man once said "any caliber intended for self defense should start with a 4" | | | | User: amazon92001 | | Your choice depends whether you want to carry it or not. The 19 would be more concealable and slightly less likely to snag on things, but I have found it is slightly less handy for those with larger hands, with its' shorter grip.
Go with the 9mm; the .45 is a lot harder to control, especially in the Glolck composite receiver. | | | | User: halfnoon2002 | | Glock 17 also comes in a .40 I do believe. Ask your dealer about the Price | | | | User: BigDozer66 | | I have a Glock 17 and my wife has a Glock 19. You can use the 17 mags in the 19 (they will stick out some) but not the other way around. The 19 has a shorter grip for smaller hands or easier concealing if you want to carry it.
They are probably both 3rd generation guns which will have an integral light rail on it. Neither is 'better' than the other with the exception of size. The 17 might be a little more accurate because of the longer barrel and the 19 more concealable.
For target practice the 9mm is hard to beat in a full size, full power gun.
For my concealed carry weapon I carry a Kimber Pro CDP 1911 style pistol in .45 ACP. :-)
If I am going 4 wheeling or boating I carry the Glock because it will shoot no matter how dirty it is. ;-)
I guess I am blessed by living in Texas because I have 2 or 3 dealers in my area that sell Glocks starting at $469.00.
I bought my Generation 3 OD Green G17 for $419.00 just after the assault ban sunset but it was with 2 10 round mags. The ones with 2 17 round mags were $439.00 then. | | | | User: littleman77y | | If you're absolutely sold on the Glock, only get the 17 or the 19. They nearly perfected the 9mm auto pistol. If, however, you want a larger caliber, go with another maker entirely. Somehow, when Glock scaled up their 9mm design to take larger ammo, those models were not designed as well, and even a slightly bad cartridge case or overcharge has been known to cause failures. The other answers here are mostly right on, it depends what you want to do with your handgun. For concealed carry, Glocks tend to be too bulky on my body. YMMV. I prefer a slim 1911 (Stainless Springfield .45) in a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB holster. Heavier than a Glock, but I can carry comfortably all day and I know the gun will shoot straight again and agian when pressed into duty. I've also heard good things about the Ruger P-series pistols (9mm, .40S&W, and .45ACP) and they're competitively priced. | | | | User: david m | | $479 is a super deal for a Glock 17 or 19. For awhile I only saw Glock 17s and 22s for $499. The Glock 21 (45ACP) should be sround $530.
The only thing with a 21 is that you have to have large hands to feel comfortable with it. Personally, I would jump on the 17 or 19. For ccw, the 19 is the largest I would go, although some feel that even the 19 is too large. ALL Glocks are shipped from Smyrna,GA with at leeast two magazines. Spare parts are very cheap for Glocks as well. Practice a lot with that trigger pull! It has a very quick reset and if you let the trigger reset all the way past the click for every shot your finger pad will burn. They are good guns for convenience, maintenance, and durability.
I owned a 17 and 22 at one time, then a 21. My favorite was the 17 because it was the most controllable. I wish I would have bypassed those three and got a 19. I would probably still have that right now. I own all-steel guns right now but will probably obtain a "commander-size" black plastic piece in the future. Jump on that Glock while it is on sale! | | | | User: teekah250 | | I'm an authorized Glock Dealer in Virginia, and sell pretty much any Glock without night sights for $530. $479 is a great deal, but if you dont' want the 9mm, what's 40-50$ more? Unless you have huge hands, I would stay away from 45ACP because the grips become very large. Glock's are great pistols and very accurate if you don't mind the internal hammer and polymer. If you want to target shoot, the G17 is a great pistol, as it has a slightly longer barrel than the G19, but it really depends on what you want to do. The G19 would be easier concealed. And if you ever want to get a laser for your pistol, I suggest checking into Crimson Trace grips. The grip no longer requires modifying a Glock frame and can be user installed.
And for the record, all new Glocks are shipped with
2 mags
1 Thumb loader(Speed Loader)
1 cleaning rod(plastic with eyelet)
1 cleaning brush(nylon of some sort)
1 gun cable lock
1 spent casing(in most states)
1 hard plastic Glock case
And of course manuals. | | | | User: Sam D | | For a new Glock, that's actually a pretty good deal. And the only difference between a new G17 and a G19 is that the G17 is the full-sized pistol, with a barrel one half-inch longer than that of the G19 (slightly longer sight-radius,) and a longer grip frame, which might offer a better platform for a two-handed grip (for some shooters, used to full-sized guns.)
A new Glock in .40 S&W (G22 full-sized or G23 medium-frame) will cost more than a 9mm Glock. I got my G23 for something like $530, but it'd been sitting on display for quite a long time, so the price I paid was $50 less than what it was originally advertised for. Glocks in .40 S&W are good guns, being identical in the grip department to the 9mm guns.
A new Glock in .45 ACP (G21 full-sized, G30 compact, and G36 compact with slim grips,) I've seen advertised for around or over $600 at some local gun shops. The G36 is the best of this particular bunch, in my opinion. Sure it's only got a magazine capacity of 6+1, but that's because it's using a single-stack magazine. The full-sized G21 has this enormous hulk of a grip that takes an enormous hand to feel comfortable holding on to. | | | | User: H | | If you just want one for protection you're probably better off with the Model 19 which is more compact. I am a police officer and at least four times rookies have told me they have trouble qualifying with their service weapon. I tell them to switch to a Glock Model 19 and they ALWAYS qualify. The 19 is user friendly, low recoil, accurate and holds enough ammo. Ammo is inexpensive so you can get a lot of practice in.
On duty I carry a Model 20 .10mm, but I've always liked big guns. That's just me. A nine will kill you just as dead but you hope and pray never to go there. Of course, the .45 (acp or GAP) and the .40 S&W do have a bit more 'umph' and probably do stop an aggressor quicker. But if you're not always in harms way (as police officers are) do you need that much firepower? If the answer is yes, then consider the Glock Model 31 in .357 Sig or my personal favorite, the Glock Model 20 in .10mm. Boths are better stoppers than either one of the .45s or the 40 S&W.
Take any safety courses your State may require, and if you intend to carry your Glock comply with State Law. Never point your Glock at anything you don't intend to destroy and remember, bullets shoot through dry wall. Final note: Both the Model 17 Glock and the Model 19 are excellent service weapons. The 17 is a bit bigger, holds a couple of more bullets and has a slightly longer barrel for a bit more bullet velocity and energy.
H
P.S. $479 is a good price. I paid more for my Glocks, but mine have night sights.
H | | | | User: ideamanbmg | | A .45 ACP works better than a 9mm. Why a Glock? There are better, less expensive, easier to use pistols like the fine Ruger P-345 and Taurus models. Taurus is, for all intents and purposes, a Brazilian made Beretta, or in revolvers, a Smith & Wesson. Taurus uses the same blueprints and machinery to make their pistols and revolvers. There is a slight quality difference between a Beretta and Smith, but otherwise are identical. And they cost less than Glocks. Glocks are striker fired, which means a long heavy trigger pull and you can't coock it to make it easier to pull. | | | | User: k9mpgsd | | I shoot all three rounds. My preferences are
1 .40
2 .45
9. 9MM
lol can you tell I hate the 9MM?
Could be from the days in the Army when we could only use FMJ | | | | User: 1hunter1@sbcglobal.net | | The 9mm is worthless. Look at the .45cal. It has 91% effective stopping power. Why go with any thing else? As for the difference between .45 and.45 GAP you are on your own.good luck.
Glock makes the best guns good choice. | | | | User: DJ | | Remember when the Pope, John Paul II got shot three times in the torso at close range?
He was waving from the balcony just a few days later to well-wishers and went on to Pope for 25 more years?
That was a 9mm.
As long as you understand that....fine.
That said, I have a Browning Hi Power in 9mm that is my daily personal companion (I'm a big hipocrit!!!)
The glock is one of the best 9mm pistols out there but I really recommend you go with .40 and with the Springfield XD, HK or Sig for the bigger calibers. | | | | User: abdulnonoodle | | I live in Virginia and have 3 Glocks, a 20, 23, and 29. You won't regret buying any Glock, but I think the 9mm is underpowered, and the deal you are offered is the standard price for that pistol.
I'd recommend getting a 10mm instead. My model 20 came with 2 15 round clips. It should cost about $40 more, and the bullets are more expensive, but it's worth it.
Start reloading and you can get better bullets and shoot cheaper. | | | | User: jmmccollum | | The price you are giving leads me to believe that these are used guns, which with Glock isn't an issue. We sell them at our shop and carry them as well. The price you are quoting on the glock 19 is a very fair price and I would buy it if you want a 9mm. However, a .45 acp is significantly more powerful and accurate over distance. I personally would get the Glock 32 which a .357sig. It is wicked fast and accurate. With the right load it can match the .357mag bolistics. The ammo is somewhat expensive but all you need to do is buy a .40cal barrell and you can swap them out to shoot .40cal SW as well to save money. You may also want to be aware that Glock makes a 33 round mag for the 19 and a 32 round mag for .357sig/.40cal. | | | | User: sub_moa_shooter | | IMHO I would rent different pistols in different calibers to see what you like best. I preferred the Glock Mod. 23 to my Wife's Glock Mod. 19, but both were great shooters. I just preferred the .40 S&W to the 9mm. | | |
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