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Glock 23 vs Glock 27?

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2007-09-20 17:37:22
I am strongly considering between one of these. My first question is regarding magazine capacity. Glock lists magazine capacity as: Glock 23 (compact): standard 9, optional 15/17 Glock 27 (subcompact: (standard 13, optional 11/13/15/17 So can both load a single magazine of 17 rounds? What is the difference between the standard and "optional" magazines? Is there any benefit to the "C" version model? Why would you choose one version over the other? Can't the 23 be easily concealed? Do the 23 and 27 deliver the same firepower? Lastly, how much different is the recoil from a .40 S& W compared to both the 9 mm and .45 models? (I am a guitarist and do not want to overabuse my hands and wrists). Thanks a lot!
Answered By: Mad Town Ghost
Glock 27's grip is way too large around.
User: Mad Town Ghost
Glock 27's grip is way too large around.
User: eddygordo19
You have your mag capacities confused. The 23 is 13 rounds and the 27 in 9 rounds. The capacity and the size of the guns are the differences between the two models. The 17 round magazine is for the 9mm Glock 17. The full size .40 S&W is the Glock 22, which holds 15 rounds, and this mag can be used for both the 23 and 27, but the larger mag will protrude from the grip. The 27 would be more easily concealed, but the 23 offers more grip area. You need to see which gun more comfortably fits your hand, and you need to weigh that factor with your need for concealability. Firepower comparisons between the 23 and 27 is a function of capacity. Recoil from a 9mm or a .40 S&W is a non-factor when it comes to comfort. They do not kick hard.
User: icing_in_ak
The "C" models have the barrel porting at the front of the barrel. Some of the gases will vent out the top at a V angle. This helps reduce muzzle flip. Reduce muzzle flip means you can get your sights back on target faster as well as reducing recoil. Although the 23 and 27 chamber the same round, the velocity the bullet leaves the gun will differ somewhat. Also because the 27 is a smaller length of grip, it makes handling the recoil somewhat more difficult as you have less surface to hold onto, and the gun delivers a greater impact (basic physics) back to the hand. The standard mags are G23 - 13 rounds, G27 - 9 rounds. The G23 makes a good primary gun. The G27 would be a good backup gun in case the primary fails. I believe they both use the same mags, but I could be wrong. I'm not a Glock man. Glock does make magazines that will hold 17 rounds. Usually they stick out more from the gun though. I don't know if Glock makes the longer mags so that they have some sort of grip like Springfield does for the XD. But if you trying to conceal, a 17 round mag sticks out more. The 27 is probably a little easier to conceal than the 23 due to its smaller size. However, if shooting the 27 is painful to you, then you might want to go with a bigger pistol. In a Glock, the 9mm has the lightest felt recoil. The 40SW will kick more. I'd assume the 45 ACP kicks a lot more, haven't shot one myself. The only way to really get used to the recoil is to shoot often, and at that point, it won't bother you. The more frequent the better. If you are just plinking, go with a Glock in 9mm (negligable recoil and cheap to shoot) or the G22 or G23.
User: Mask
Ultimately, this will come down to your conceal carry needs and whether the Glock 27 feels comfortable in your hand, as it is small. The only differences between the two is barrel length, capacity, and size. Larger mags fit in both pistols. You can also get an extension for the Glock 27 so your little finger will fit on the grip. Go to your local shop and grip both handguns and see which one feels better or comfortable in your hand. The Glock 27 is easier to conceal, especially if you need to conceal carry in a t-shirt...otherwise I would go with the 23. 9mm has the least amount of recoil but recoil is rather subjective, so the only way you can truly answer that is to go to a range and shoot all three calibers. "C" models have less recoil but more flash and get dirtier than the standard models. I personally do not care for them.
User: shadowtracker
1. Glock 23 (compact) : standard 13, optional 15/17/29 Glock 27 (subcompact): standard 9, optional 11/13/15/17/29 2.Yes you can load a magazine of 17rounds in both the Glock 23 and the Glock 27. The difference between the standard and optional magazines is that the one that is standard comes with the gun when you buy it, and optional is what will work with your gun. 3. The C models are compensated, they are for helping with muzzle control. If you are going to use this for competition than the C is ok, if you are going to carry concealed you do NOT want the C. 4. That is personal preference, the 23 is great for concealed carry. The 27 would be great for a backup to your 23. Yes the 23 and 27 deliver the same firepower. 5. personally I didn't notice any difference between the 40 and 9. The 45 willl have more of a kick. If you are able to, see if there is a place in your area where you can rent a G19(9mm) and a G23(40 S&W) and see what you think. Something to consider, box of 50:for the range/box of 20 concealed carry 9mm you can find for as low as $8.00/$15.00 40S&W I have seeen no lower that $10.50/$18.00 Again this depends on your area. Also wear some good tactical gloves to save your hands when training. I hope that this helps you out.
User: DMan
Bottom line, get a glock 19 you will thank me later. You can conceal this gun, and fight with it. Full grip unlike the 27 which is only a two finger grip. 9 mm versus 45 versus 40 is a dumb argument. 9mm is a cheap cartridge and doesn't really offer any less terminal performance than any modern pistol cartridge used by law enforcement agencies today. 9mm ammo is cheap so you can practice a lot because shooting a pistol accurately takes practice. Get the gun a 19, night sights, extra magazines, a desecent holster, kydex or leather Inside the wasteband from comp tac or blade tech, couple cases of ammo and if you have money left over get some real training from a nationally recognized training facility.
User: Mad Town Ghost
Glock 27's grip is way too large around.
User: eddygordo19
You have your mag capacities confused. The 23 is 13 rounds and the 27 in 9 rounds. The capacity and the size of the guns are the differences between the two models. The 17 round magazine is for the 9mm Glock 17. The full size .40 S&W is the Glock 22, which holds 15 rounds, and this mag can be used for both the 23 and 27, but the larger mag will protrude from the grip. The 27 would be more easily concealed, but the 23 offers more grip area. You need to see which gun more comfortably fits your hand, and you need to weigh that factor with your need for concealability. Firepower comparisons between the 23 and 27 is a function of capacity. Recoil from a 9mm or a .40 S&W is a non-factor when it comes to comfort. They do not kick hard.
User: icing_in_ak
The "C" models have the barrel porting at the front of the barrel. Some of the gases will vent out the top at a V angle. This helps reduce muzzle flip. Reduce muzzle flip means you can get your sights back on target faster as well as reducing recoil. Although the 23 and 27 chamber the same round, the velocity the bullet leaves the gun will differ somewhat. Also because the 27 is a smaller length of grip, it makes handling the recoil somewhat more difficult as you have less surface to hold onto, and the gun delivers a greater impact (basic physics) back to the hand. The standard mags are G23 - 13 rounds, G27 - 9 rounds. The G23 makes a good primary gun. The G27 would be a good backup gun in case the primary fails. I believe they both use the same mags, but I could be wrong. I'm not a Glock man. Glock does make magazines that will hold 17 rounds. Usually they stick out more from the gun though. I don't know if Glock makes the longer mags so that they have some sort of grip like Springfield does for the XD. But if you trying to conceal, a 17 round mag sticks out more. The 27 is probably a little easier to conceal than the 23 due to its smaller size. However, if shooting the 27 is painful to you, then you might want to go with a bigger pistol. In a Glock, the 9mm has the lightest felt recoil. The 40SW will kick more. I'd assume the 45 ACP kicks a lot more, haven't shot one myself. The only way to really get used to the recoil is to shoot often, and at that point, it won't bother you. The more frequent the better. If you are just plinking, go with a Glock in 9mm (negligable recoil and cheap to shoot) or the G22 or G23.
User: Mask
Ultimately, this will come down to your conceal carry needs and whether the Glock 27 feels comfortable in your hand, as it is small. The only differences between the two is barrel length, capacity, and size. Larger mags fit in both pistols. You can also get an extension for the Glock 27 so your little finger will fit on the grip. Go to your local shop and grip both handguns and see which one feels better or comfortable in your hand. The Glock 27 is easier to conceal, especially if you need to conceal carry in a t-shirt...otherwise I would go with the 23. 9mm has the least amount of recoil but recoil is rather subjective, so the only way you can truly answer that is to go to a range and shoot all three calibers. "C" models have less recoil but more flash and get dirtier than the standard models. I personally do not care for them.
User: shadowtracker
1. Glock 23 (compact) : standard 13, optional 15/17/29 Glock 27 (subcompact): standard 9, optional 11/13/15/17/29 2.Yes you can load a magazine of 17rounds in both the Glock 23 and the Glock 27. The difference between the standard and optional magazines is that the one that is standard comes with the gun when you buy it, and optional is what will work with your gun. 3. The C models are compensated, they are for helping with muzzle control. If you are going to use this for competition than the C is ok, if you are going to carry concealed you do NOT want the C. 4. That is personal preference, the 23 is great for concealed carry. The 27 would be great for a backup to your 23. Yes the 23 and 27 deliver the same firepower. 5. personally I didn't notice any difference between the 40 and 9. The 45 willl have more of a kick. If you are able to, see if there is a place in your area where you can rent a G19(9mm) and a G23(40 S&W) and see what you think. Something to consider, box of 50:for the range/box of 20 concealed carry 9mm you can find for as low as $8.00/$15.00 40S&W I have seeen no lower that $10.50/$18.00 Again this depends on your area. Also wear some good tactical gloves to save your hands when training. I hope that this helps you out.
User: DMan
Bottom line, get a glock 19 you will thank me later. You can conceal this gun, and fight with it. Full grip unlike the 27 which is only a two finger grip. 9 mm versus 45 versus 40 is a dumb argument. 9mm is a cheap cartridge and doesn't really offer any less terminal performance than any modern pistol cartridge used by law enforcement agencies today. 9mm ammo is cheap so you can practice a lot because shooting a pistol accurately takes practice. Get the gun a 19, night sights, extra magazines, a desecent holster, kydex or leather Inside the wasteband from comp tac or blade tech, couple cases of ammo and if you have money left over get some real training from a nationally recognized training facility.
User: Mad Town Ghost
Glock 27's grip is way too large around.
User: eddygordo19
You have your mag capacities confused. The 23 is 13 rounds and the 27 in 9 rounds. The capacity and the size of the guns are the differences between the two models. The 17 round magazine is for the 9mm Glock 17. The full size .40 S&W is the Glock 22, which holds 15 rounds, and this mag can be used for both the 23 and 27, but the larger mag will protrude from the grip. The 27 would be more easily concealed, but the 23 offers more grip area. You need to see which gun more comfortably fits your hand, and you need to weigh that factor with your need for concealability. Firepower comparisons between the 23 and 27 is a function of capacity. Recoil from a 9mm or a .40 S&W is a non-factor when it comes to comfort. They do not kick hard.
User: icing_in_ak
The "C" models have the barrel porting at the front of the barrel. Some of the gases will vent out the top at a V angle. This helps reduce muzzle flip. Reduce muzzle flip means you can get your sights back on target faster as well as reducing recoil. Although the 23 and 27 chamber the same round, the velocity the bullet leaves the gun will differ somewhat. Also because the 27 is a smaller length of grip, it makes handling the recoil somewhat more difficult as you have less surface to hold onto, and the gun delivers a greater impact (basic physics) back to the hand. The standard mags are G23 - 13 rounds, G27 - 9 rounds. The G23 makes a good primary gun. The G27 would be a good backup gun in case the primary fails. I believe they both use the same mags, but I could be wrong. I'm not a Glock man. Glock does make magazines that will hold 17 rounds. Usually they stick out more from the gun though. I don't know if Glock makes the longer mags so that they have some sort of grip like Springfield does for the XD. But if you trying to conceal, a 17 round mag sticks out more. The 27 is probably a little easier to conceal than the 23 due to its smaller size. However, if shooting the 27 is painful to you, then you might want to go with a bigger pistol. In a Glock, the 9mm has the lightest felt recoil. The 40SW will kick more. I'd assume the 45 ACP kicks a lot more, haven't shot one myself. The only way to really get used to the recoil is to shoot often, and at that point, it won't bother you. The more frequent the better. If you are just plinking, go with a Glock in 9mm (negligable recoil and cheap to shoot) or the G22 or G23.
User: Mask
Ultimately, this will come down to your conceal carry needs and whether the Glock 27 feels comfortable in your hand, as it is small. The only differences between the two is barrel length, capacity, and size. Larger mags fit in both pistols. You can also get an extension for the Glock 27 so your little finger will fit on the grip. Go to your local shop and grip both handguns and see which one feels better or comfortable in your hand. The Glock 27 is easier to conceal, especially if you need to conceal carry in a t-shirt...otherwise I would go with the 23. 9mm has the least amount of recoil but recoil is rather subjective, so the only way you can truly answer that is to go to a range and shoot all three calibers. "C" models have less recoil but more flash and get dirtier than the standard models. I personally do not care for them.
User: shadowtracker
1. Glock 23 (compact) : standard 13, optional 15/17/29 Glock 27 (subcompact): standard 9, optional 11/13/15/17/29 2.Yes you can load a magazine of 17rounds in both the Glock 23 and the Glock 27. The difference between the standard and optional magazines is that the one that is standard comes with the gun when you buy it, and optional is what will work with your gun. 3. The C models are compensated, they are for helping with muzzle control. If you are going to use this for competition than the C is ok, if you are going to carry concealed you do NOT want the C. 4. That is personal preference, the 23 is great for concealed carry. The 27 would be great for a backup to your 23. Yes the 23 and 27 deliver the same firepower. 5. personally I didn't notice any difference between the 40 and 9. The 45 willl have more of a kick. If you are able to, see if there is a place in your area where you can rent a G19(9mm) and a G23(40 S&W) and see what you think. Something to consider, box of 50:for the range/box of 20 concealed carry 9mm you can find for as low as $8.00/$15.00 40S&W I have seeen no lower that $10.50/$18.00 Again this depends on your area. Also wear some good tactical gloves to save your hands when training. I hope that this helps you out.
User: DMan
Bottom line, get a glock 19 you will thank me later. You can conceal this gun, and fight with it. Full grip unlike the 27 which is only a two finger grip. 9 mm versus 45 versus 40 is a dumb argument. 9mm is a cheap cartridge and doesn't really offer any less terminal performance than any modern pistol cartridge used by law enforcement agencies today. 9mm ammo is cheap so you can practice a lot because shooting a pistol accurately takes practice. Get the gun a 19, night sights, extra magazines, a desecent holster, kydex or leather Inside the wasteband from comp tac or blade tech, couple cases of ammo and if you have money left over get some real training from a nationally recognized training facility.

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