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Outdoor protection?

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2008-02-11 01:18:27
i am thinking of purchasing a handgun for animal protection. being outdoors alot i hove found need of one many times. i am thinking of a, m9 beretta, .45 magnum glock, .38 glock, a .357, or .44 magnum. any advice? this is for anything from wolf to grizzly i think you missunderstood those might work for a wolf but the beretta will bounce off a grizzly's head
Answered By: cpttango30
Yah if it says glock you are going to DIE if you come on to a grizzley. Your best bet is to get a Revolver in 41 or 44 mag or step up to to a 45long colt, or a 460 ruger. You need a big bullet not a fast bullet. A 12 ga with slugs would be even better.
User: Justin K
18 or 19 glock heaps better than the 38. or the beretta no others
User: 4wheeler nut
I would say that the Least stopping power would be the 357 Mag. then from there a S&W 40, 10MM, 45 ACP. These are easy to carry. If you go big gun then the 45LC, 454 Casull, 50 A&E. The Gun make depends on if you are looking at Single,double action to Semi auto. Stay away from little 9MM and 38's they are good but not what you are wanting For what you are asking. Stay with Name brands like H&k, S&W, Glock, Ruger, Para Ord., Spingfeild, Beretta, In no perticular order.
User: John
If you might need protection from a grizzly and you want a handgun, the minimum would be either a .44 Magnum revolver or a 10mm Glock (the latter loaded with Hornady 200 gr. XTPs, which penetrate as deeply as some .44 Mag. loads, or CorBon 180 gr. Hunting loads.) If you want something bigger, I would suggest the Ruger Alaskan revolver in .454 Casull, or the S&W revolver in .460 S&W or .500 S&W. I would not bother with the 9mm, .38 Special, or even the .357 Magnum, with so many better choices available.
User: Ghost of Stocky
Same as indoors...... use a trojan. Oh for the love of Hugh Hefner! It was a joke lighten up thumbs downer!
User: H
No such thing as a .45 Magnum Glock nor a .38 Glock. Actually, most autos are too minimal for four legged predators with the exception of the Glock Model 20 10mm or one of the behemoth Desert Eagles or Wildey pistols. The minimum defensive handguns for four legged predators is the .357 Magnum revolver, preferably with the 6" barrel. A .44 Magnum or .454 Casull is better if you are in Grizzly country. Forget the 9mm, .40 S&Ws and even the .45 acp. H
User: rotorhead
If you seriously believe you might have to defend yourself against a grizzly, I would not mess with anything smaller than a 10mm. A .44mag would be good also. You can go larger but then you have a weight issue to deal with.
User: cpttango30
Yah if it says glock you are going to DIE if you come on to a grizzley. Your best bet is to get a Revolver in 41 or 44 mag or step up to to a 45long colt, or a 460 ruger. You need a big bullet not a fast bullet. A 12 ga with slugs would be even better.
User: fisher1221us
a Smith and Wesson .357
User: dca2003311@yahoo.com
Forget about the handgun altogether, go with a 12 gauge shotgun with slugs.*
User: !!SNIPER!!
for grizzlies you BETTER be packin at least a 460 or 500 S&W.
User: David S
personaly the smallest i would carry is .41 magnum then a .44 mag .454 casull .460 .50 AE .500 magnum shotgun with 3" mag slugs.
User: Jim A
OK how many of you fellas have hunted brown bear and grizzlies? Humm? Ya I thought so. I know one of you has as I hunted with you, cant say the name that would be chat lol! I can give ya a hint his wife makes bead necklaces. Let me tell you friends a brown bear weighing 800 to 1200lbs is NOT easy to stop! Nor are grizzlies! When you hunt them you want a nice pelt so you don’t shoot it in the head with a 338 Norma mag and blow a big hole through its head. This is why guided hunts most often take more than one bullet. For self defense you had better be damn good with that big bore pistol! And you need to know where to hit him with it by heart. That big ol’ head of his is mostly fur, with a sloping skull and a brain a little bigger than a big grapefruit. Can you hit something that small coming at you, bobbing up and down at 30 mph? I have killed a few big bears in Alaska and some years back one mauled a dear friend of mine who emptied a .44 mag into it. Like him you may be a crack shot but when you are scared sh-itless you aim can be off. So unless you are an expert pistol-lero you need a shotgun with slugs or a high powered rifle larger than 06’. Although they have been killed with an 06’ why risk death and dismemberment? Handguns?… oh boy… well at the very least a .41 mag, 44 mag or better yet a 500 smith and Wesson. You want a big DEEP hole in that bear. You want to hit him with at LEAST 800ft lbs of energy, 1000 ft lbs would be far better. Unless you want to be a pile of bear dung!
User: Sourdough
I don’t answer questions here much. But when some one says ‘bear protection” and I see all these nice people suggest handguns made for combat and police work to be used on bears. It scares me for them. I am not gun expert, no guide or bear expert, I'm just a Alaskan who knows how tough and mean they are. This animal can rip the door off your truck and eat you. So here is some good information on that question; Please read it, I agree 100% with them http://www.chuckhawks.com/protection_field.htm “The potential problem is the 10mm Auto cartridge itself. Powerful for a true auto pistol cartridge, it is not particularly impressive when compared to the popular magnum revolver cartridges. The Federal 10mm factory load with a 180 grain high antimony lead bullet has an advertised muzzle velocity (MV) of 1030 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 425 ft. lbs. This load probably offers about the best penetration that can be had from a 10mm factory load, short of a 200 grain (SD .179) full metal jacketed bullet that offers no possibility of expansion at all. The sectional density of the 180 grain 10mm bullet is only .161, however. Hornady offers a 10mm factory load using their 200 grain jacketed hollow point XTP bullet (MV 1050 fps, ME 490 ft. lbs.). Hornady recommends this bullet for "medium game," which would presumably include wolf, cougar, jaguar and black bear but not grizzly, brown and polar bear.” Read what Alaskan’s in the bush carry on this forum; http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/akforum/akshooting/49028.htm Here is a true story of a brown bear hunt in Alaska with the .500S&W http://www.biggamehunt.net/sections/Alaska/Handgun_Hunting_the_Alaskan_Brown_Bear_02050401.html From that article; “ I trained my revolver at the bear and watched Glen as he lay on the ground in a firing position. I nodded my head to him and a second later, the blast of his .500 Smith & Wesson echoed against the distant hillsides. The bear never flinched when the bullet hit him and it continued to get up. Immediately I fired my .500, the bullet striking the great bear center mass and again, it never flinched. We were about 20 yards from it and in a spot where we could be readily seen by the beast,” Scary isn’t it? Be safe.

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